In this episode of the Move the Chains podcast, host Ryan Munsey interviews Tamsen Webster, a message strategist with extensive experience in marketing and behavior change. They discuss the keys to effective messaging, the lessons learned from Tamsen's time at Weight Watchers - including behavior change and belief systems, and the captivating messaging framework outlined in her book, The Red Thread. Tamsen emphasizes the significance of understanding hidden problems in communication and how to apply these concepts to everything from important conversations, to meetings to marketing campaigns. The conversation concludes with practical tips for developing consistency in aligning actions with goals.

Chapters

• 00:57 The Journey to Becoming a Message Strategist

• 03:03 Lessons from Weight Watchers: Individual vs. Market Messaging

• 05:44 Understanding the Red Thread: A Framework for Communication

• 09:04 The Five Steps of Storytelling in Communication

• 11:54 Identifying Hidden Problems for Effective Communication

• 15:58 Applying Messaging Strategies in Various Contexts

• 18:55 The iPod Campaign: A Case Study in Effective Messaging

• 22:09 The Power of Storytelling in Marketing

• 25:58 Transforming Meetings Through Narrative

• 34:04 Crafting Effective Communication Strategies

• 40:09 Aligning Actions with Identity

Links

• Connect with Tamsen Webster

  • Tamsen's Website

  • Tamsen's Books

  • Tamsen on Linked In

  • Message Design Institute

• Connect with Ryan Munsey

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